This recording begins with Dell speaking of a Brother Redding who is leaving the COGIC church to start his own organization. Redding talks about his calling to the ministry and how he led a revival at the Bethlehem Healing Temple with Pastor Jackson. He talks about his call to be ordained and how he was questioned by a group over his wanting this promotion. He makes Dell aware of his concerns about Dell�s church, including finance, his denial or ordination, and not including people outside the church. Dell raises the question that Redding may not be happy anywhere and tries to convince him to stay with the church.